“Let’s stop talking about veganism as a matter of compassion, benevolence and other nice-sounding, but ultimately anthropocentric missives. The idea that we are “being kind”, “acting compassionately”, or “saving lives” just by being vegan is misguided. It’s also paternalistic. Veganism is a matter of justice, and it reflects the absolute minimum of justice that I owe other persons (human and non). That doesn’t mean we’re not compassionate people. It doesn’t mean we can’t act compassionately toward other animals (human or non). It just means that veganism is what we owe them. It’s not an act of charity.”—(via manifestations)
I’m practically homeless, I am jobless, and on fucking food stamps! I eat ROYALLY! People are either lazy and do not want to cook, or do not do the research. Eating vegan is just as expensive as eating any other diet. Organic does not mean vegan you idiots! Vegan just means you don’t consume animal! Also, for the people who say feeding your pet vegan is too expensive, my boyfriend found vegan dog food for the same price as regular ass dog food. There are blogs and articles about how you can eat vegan for cheap! Even $3 a meal! That’s cheaper than a happy meal at McDonald’s! So, as I’ve clearly stated, your excuses are BULLSHIT. If my boyfriend and I can eat vegan comfortably, anyone can. Go vegan.
You could also go raw and not even have to cook!
Agreed with all of this, from another broke-as-fuck vegan.
When I was 16, I was stupid and ran away. Being homeless showed me a lot of things. And gave me the ability to truly appreciate everything I had. And now looking back, I realized. I ate vegan the whole time, I wasn’t vegan then, or even vegetarian.
It just so happens, that everything I ate was vegan, because it was the cheapest way to eat. So many fruits I could just grab and eat then and there.
Beans I’d heat up at gas stations/community centers.
And bread was a good filler.
Now, I know every where is different, but one thing is for sure. If I was vegan UNINTENTIONALLY while homeless.
You have no excuse to not be vegan when you have access to internet, while you sit there and eat a steak that’s $20 a pound, and a can of beans is .99 cents.
Your excuses are pathetic. And frankly, the animals don’t deserve to hear them.
Ok, this has been bothering me, feminist blogs, so listen up.
You talk about intersectionality. Constantly. I see the word pop up on my dash all the time, and that’s great!
But here’s the thing.
If you only focus on one or two areas of intersectionality, YOU’RE DOING IT FUCKING WRONG.
Intersectionality deals in a lot of areas. Race, the gender binary, age, weight, economic status, etc. And generally speaking, I think many (certainly not all) people do an ok job at this. Not good, certainly not great, but ok.
You know what else deserves a LITTLE BIT of your focus? Disability.
And when I say this, I don’t mean just casually adding the term ‘ableism’ to a list of isms. I mean actually take the fucking time to think about it, post about it, and learn about it.
Another thing that begs to be mentioned is that when you are talking about privilege regarding disabilities, ‘able-bodied’ is not a catch-all term. Because while everyone has a body, there is something else that everyone has. A brain.
I don’t know if you knew this, but learning disabilities, mental illnesses, and neurological disorders also exist.
Acknowledge them. Learn about them. Talk about them.
Seriously, if you’re going to talk about privilege, you need to acknowledge everything the word ‘privilege’ encompasses.
That is all.
Truth! Truth! Truth in all ways!
I was thinking about this today: “So if people whose body work the way the are supposed to work, are able bodied, does that mean that people whose minds work the way they are supposed to work, able minded? Does that make me disableminded?”
When a fellow vegan talks about non humans as hir “younger/little brother/sister”.
Non humans are not my siblings, and they do not need to be to have my respect. When people go like “our little brothers”, “my friends”, or “I love all animals, thus I’m vegan”, carnists think that vegans are a sentimentalist bunch of people unable to make a rational thought. They think it’s all about our human feelings about animals (perpetuating animal objectification), and that therefore, being vegan is a personal choice based on our feelings of love and friendship towards animals. And it is not. It is a moral imperative of respect and justice towards non human animals. Period.
You want me to eat vegatarian. Meat is bad for my health. Do you also want to pay my grocery bill? Because not paying rent is also bad for my health.
You want me to eat organic/vegan. Pesticides are bad, meat is the devil. Look how their treating the animals. Because we totally evolved by eating salad, rice, and beans. Are you going to drive me to the closest farmer’s market? Are you going to pay for gas, or bus fare? If you pay for bus fare, are you going to help me carry my grocerys? Do you also want to pay my grocery bill?
I like that you’re doing something for you. You’re enjoying a new diet (for lack of better word). But I shouldn’t feel like shit, or a bad person, when I can not afford that lifestyle.
Let me repeat.
Vegetarian/organic/vegan is a luxury. A luxury that I can’t afford.
(And since panties twist SOO easily: Not every vegetarian/vegan/organic eating person is like this - shoving it in people’s faces saying “BUT THINK ABOUT THE NICE INNOCENT COWS”. It just bothers me when people don’t realize this.)
Vegan is no luxury. May I refer you here: http://camirebolledok.tumblr.com/post/25895437509/methinks-if-you-want-to-promote-veganism-you-go-about
Check out the links, for they may help you.
Also, meat and dairy products are the most expensive food items I know. I spend as a vegan much less than any of my omni family members. That “vegan=expensive” is a myth, and an easily “debunkable” one.
And check out Earthlings, so maybe you can understand why everyone must go vegan.
ok so my the award for #1 asshole goes to my dad. ugh seriously he just used my last box of vegetable broth when he has like literally 15 boxes of chicken broth in the pantry. asshole. I asked him politely if he could just use his chicken broth, because being that I am vegan & planned on using it tomorrow to make quinoa & he just says “no, i want to use this.” what the fuck. I buy all the vegan products in my house with my own money & i am the ONLY vegan in this house. but he has the nerve to use it, when he has his own stuff. I told him that I wanted to use it tomorrow, & asked him what I was supposed to use. & he just says that he doesnt care as he pours the entire box into his pan. so he just used it all, & im pissed because there is no way I can get more till probably saturday or sunday, & that just screws with my meal plan. seriously, he called me a selfish bitch, when in reality he’s the selfish one. he does stuff like this on purpose so he can tell my mom how “horrible” i treat him. grow up. I honestly want to save up all my money so I can get the hell out of this house.
Ugh, that sucks. =/ Maybe you can make it somehow with water/without broth?
I’d fuck his meal plans too. You know, chicken rot when it’s not in the fridge. But that’s not a really nice idea. You to your mom first, and ask him to buy you a new veggie box. Then, if he’s not gonna be nice, then you shouldn’t either.
I just read this awesome article by Claire Georgiou at JoinTheReboot.com and you can find it here. This article goes over lactose intolerance, dairy allergies, and dairy intolerance. It also goes over dairy alternatives you can consume after your juice fast. One of the reasons why I am going to stick with a vegan diet after my fast, is I have had lots of bad side effects that point to the fact that I had a dairy intolerance.
and this article in the huffington post goes over the “China Project” which concludes that “the vast majority perhaps 80 to 90% of all cancers, cardiovascular diseases, and other forms of degenerative illness can be prevented, at least until very old age, simply by adopting a plant-based diet.”
You can learn more about the “China Project” and how adopting a plant based diet would be extremely beneficial to your health by watching the documentary Forks Over Knives. It looks like “vegan thing” is making a lot more sense in a lot of ways.
I’d really like for us all to knock it off with all this vegan/non-vegan shaming.
What we eat is our choice. If we choose to eat meat, that’s fine. We have a right to do so. If we choose not to eat meat, that’s fine. We have a right to do so.
But- we do not have the right to bitch at others for what they choose to eat. This shit needs to stop.
The reason why people fight over this is because vegans are angry and know something needs to change in this world.
Personal choices are supposed to only affect you.
What color shirt I wear is a personal choice.
What music I enjoy is a personal choice.
What you eat is, in fact, a choice, but it is not a personal one because it has the ability to take the life from another being.
And therein lies the arguments because most of us live in a society in which taking another life is wrong, but yet it’s okay to kill one animal because we can.
It’s illegal if someone kills a kitten, and it’s true that people will be outraged by it. Even abusing a dog is a heinous crime here, but if someone kills a calf, no one cares because they want veal.
There’s also the fact that humans are naturally herbivores, and since we are not struggling for survival, we don’t need to eat meat, which is a privilege, when there are so many starving people in the world.
Not to mention, meat eating takes a huge toll on the environment. The cows being bred by huge scales are pumping methane into our air. The manure from the billions of animals are poisoning our water supplies. The chemicals being injected into these animals are being passed onto human beings and causing fatal diseases among us to the point where lifespans are being cut down shorter and shorter. Thus, causing the country literally billions of dollars in health care.
So, as you can see, it’s not just about what you eat. It’s about how what you eat is affecting everything and everyone around you.
I’m not trying to start a fight, as an omnivore, you probably aren’t even aware of these facts because the industry spends billions of dollars covering up the truth and baiting you into consuming their products because they don’t care about you, your health, your family, the animals, or the planet.
Vegans do, which is why we are trying to open the minds of ignorant omnivores. Each of us has a different method. Some are passive aggressive, some more rational, and some more forceful. But the “militant” vegans should not be berated for their actions. The reason behind their ways is anger and passion to try to save our insignificant little planet and all its inhabitants.