“Question: ‘Don’t you care about the good people who raise animals and will lose their livelihood?’ The meat and dairy industries create jobs for people. Do you want to see these people out of work? Answer: War creates jobs. The tobacco industry creates jobs. The prison industry creates jobs. Does that mean we should drop bombs on people, encourage people to smoke, and imprison people arbitrarily? Of course not - because economics do not determine my ethics.”—Colleen Patrick-Goudreau (via pandacake)
A “pro-lifer” (@CarolynSvelli) did her very first Q&A on abortion. It showed up in the pro-choice feed on Twitter so I decided to check it out. I posted the link to it because it’s way to long to take a screencap. I’m not going to address all of it, just a few key points. If you want to see the full answer for yourself just click the link.
Here is the full question:
Since you’re pro-life, then can I assume that you want abortion to be illegal? If so, then that means that you want women to be forced to go through with every single pregnancy they ever have, no matter how that would affect them mentally or physically. Is that really what you want? If so, then why do you care so little about a woman’s health and well-being?
The very first line of her answer was “Not only do I want it illegal, I want it to cease to exist.” Yeah. Sorry to break it to you, but that’s never going to happen. Abortions will never stop happening. If someone doesn’t want to remain pregnant, they’re going to find a way to end that pregnancy. Making abortion illegal will only drive it underground and kill more people. I find it extremely disturbing that “pro-life” people just don’t care about that fact.
No “pro-life” argument would be complete without the “sex is only for procreation” rhetoric. Here’s her spin on it.
That being said, you also have to understand sex. What is it’s purpose? just for pleasure? If the purpose of sex was purely for pleasure, then it wouldn’t also produce a human being in addition. Sex produces more of our human race AND it is pleasurable. If it were painful to have sex, the human race would cease to exist, cause no one would be doing it.
Once you understand that sex is designed to bring separate and wonderfully unique individuals into this world, to change it and to bring love and happiness to others, you start to view sex as more of a sacred act than simply one of pure pleasure…. and treat it that way.
Sex is not only for procreation. It can be, but it isn’t. If you have sex only to make babies, fine. That’s your choice to make. That doesn’t mean that everyone has to want children to have sex. There are many people (and couples) who either don’t want children now or don’t want them at all. That doesn’t mean they have to stop having sex completely.
There are many people who simply can’t handle it. Pregnancy puts a tremendous amount of stress on your body both physically and mentally. Forcing someone to do that against their will is simply horrendous. Sex can still be a “sacred act” without having children.
I think you can guess what’s coming next.
And if a mother truly does not want a baby, what happened to the option of giving that baby to one of the millions of couples who are yearning to adopt, who cannot conceive?
That would be the more loving, caring option. But killing that life?
Can you find it in your heart to equate the word Killing to the word Loving?
If couples who cannot conceive want to adopt so badly, why don’t they adopt a child already in the system? There are thousands of children out there who desperately need a loving home. If you want a child fresh from the uterus, there is the option of getting a surrogate mother. I (or any other person with a uterus) do not owe a sterile couple anything. It sounds harsh, but it’s the truth.
Killing babies is a horrible thing. No one should ever kill a baby. Having or wanting an abortion is perfectly fine though.
Now, here’s the part that really pissed me off.
Abortion and OC’s increase the risk for breast cancer.
NO. NO. NO. NO!!!!!! NOITDOESN’T!!!! How many times do I have to say this???
All in all, the question was good; the answer, not so much.
“This is what you shall do; love the earth and the sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to everyone that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others … re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss what insults your own soul and your very flesh will be a great poem …”—Walt Whitman (via therainyresistance)
“A three-day-old human embryo is a collection of 150 cells called a blastocyst. There are, for the sake of comparison, more than 100,000 cells in the brain of a fly. If our concern is about suffering in this universe, it is rather obvious that we should be more concerned about killing flies than about killing three-day-old human embryos… Many people will argue that the difference between a fly and a three-day-old human embryo is that a three-day-old human embryo is a potential human being. Every cell in your body, given the right manipulations, every cell with a nucleus is now a potential human being. Every time you scratch your nose, you’ve committed a holocaust of potential human beings… Let’s say we grant it that every three-day-old human embryo has a soul worthy of our moral concern. First of all, embryos at this stage can split into identical twins. Is this a case of one soul splitting into two souls? Embryos at this stage can fuse into a chimera. What has happened to the extra human soul in such a case? This is intellectually indefensible, but it’s morally indefensible given that these notions really are prolonging scarcely endurable misery of tens of millions of human beings, and because of the respect we accord religious faith, we can’t have this dialogue in the way that we should. I submit to you that if you think the interests of a three-day-old blastocyst trump the interests of a little girl with spinal cord injuries or a person with full-body burns, your moral intuitions have been obscured by religious metaphysics.”—
— Sam Harris, on stem cell research.
Re-blogged for scientific accuracy and for reason.
“Sometimes my need to love hurts— myself, my family, my cause. Is there a cure? Of course. But I refuse. Refuse to stop loving, to stop caring. To avoid those tears, that pain…To err on the side of passion is human and right and the only way I’ll live.”—Into the Wild by Jon Krakauer (via lostinthesounds)